Aug 10, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Wolf of Shadows [WoS]
Profession: P/
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While this build is about making it all work out I think it would be a nice idea to also suggest builds about using 6 necro heroes (assuming you have a buddy).
I have a feeling that with 6 necros you could put more of the support roles, aoe hexes and conditions on heroes without discord (for example the new xinrae weapon elite) or a n/mo who can bring word of healing and protective spirit and stuff.
Then limit the amount of skills that the discord need to bring so they can focus on spamming discord.
I am thinking maybe 2 sup death rune necro heroes with bone minions and death nova (discord for their elite). Could bring 2 necromancers that can share an aoe hex (suffering on one, shadow of fear on the other) then one can bring enfeebling blood and the other can bring weaken armor. Again, both of those would be discord elites.
Then 2 dedicated healers. I was thinking something along the line of weapon of xinrea and woh hybrid necromancers.
However, I don't know what kind of utilities I should bring for the discord heroes themselves. Since I don't want them focusing strictly on heals under pressure. Maybe one of the minion heroes could bring protective spirit, aegis and dwaynas sorrow. The other could bring foul feast and infuse condition.
I also just realized bringing an infuse condition foulfeaster would prevent needing the recovery spirit. However, as was mentioned before having only life to rely on would suck for the copies of spirit light. So I wonder what other spirit could replace it if any since conditions wouldn't be a problem.
Last edited by MercenaryKnight; Aug 10, 2008 at 06:19 AM // 06:19..
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Aug 10, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22
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#22
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
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Originally Posted by AcousticMeanie
There are an infinite number of ways to run this concept, each of them have their own strengths and weaknesses. So when you pick apart a build don't be surprised if someone picks apart yours.
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And people already DO pick apart my builds whenever I post one in this forum. It is the way this forum works, before a build is accepted or even stickied people scrutinize it to improve on it.
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Originally Posted by joshuarodger
, just that i believe it synergizes better. hell i would take both instead of having two copies of Putrid Bile
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That is of course true. Bringing 2 copies of the same hex, only makes the other copy useless and if that hex gets removed, your discord chain is broken while you wait for it to be recast.
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also i really don't care what everyone else says about Mark of Pain. it's always on my hero's bar. even if they don't use it properly 100% of the time, when it does get used properly, it's definitely worth it.
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If you want to use Mark of Pain, Sab's build synergizes with it better than a Discord build. Discord is designed to kill your single target fast while MoP is best if that target remains alive to fire your MoP from, until the surrounding monsters are dead. If the MoP target dies too fast, before the surrounding monsters, then you just wasted your MoP and had to wait for a 20s recharge unless you use AP and keep casting on new targets.
Also Sab's build uses fiends which has the fastest attack speed of the all the minions, they also target better from ranged. Fiends are the best minions to support MoP.
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Aug 10, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39
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#23
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AcousticMeanie
There are an infinite number of ways to run this concept, each of them have their own strengths and weaknesses. So when you pick apart a build don't be surprised if someone picks apart yours.
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And people already DO pick apart my builds whenever I post one in this forum. It is the way this forum works, before a build is accepted or even stickied people scrutinize it to improve on it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshuarodger
, just that i believe it synergizes better. hell i would take both instead of having two copies of Putrid Bile
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That is of course true. Bringing 2 copies of the same hex, only makes the other copy useless and if that hex gets removed, your discord chain is broken while you wait for it to be recast.
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also i really don't care what everyone else says about Mark of Pain. it's always on my hero's bar. even if they don't use it properly 100% of the time, when it does get used properly, it's definitely worth it.
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If you want to use Mark of Pain, Sab's build synergizes with it better than a Discord build. Discord is designed to kill your single target fast while MoP is best if that target remains alive to fire your MoP from, until the surrounding monsters are dead. If the MoP target dies too fast, before the surrounding monsters, then you just wasted your MoP and have to wait for a 20s recharge unless you use AP and keep casting on new targets.
Also Sab's build uses fiends which has the fastest attack speed of all the minions, they also target better from ranged. Fiends are the best minions to support MoP.
Last edited by DarkSpirit; Aug 10, 2008 at 04:49 PM // 16:49..
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